Curse

4runner · Feb 23, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

I didnt read the whole post, but Should I??? Its obsurd!!!

The cure ALL for inadequate healing is???

Join A guild or make some dam friends its that easy!!!

LOL

Murder In China · Feb 23, 2006, 11:40 PM // 23:40

You don't even need a 55 monk to solo the top-end areas!

Check out Racthoh's guides! Or Undead Preacher's!

EternalTempest · Feb 23, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54

To OP, there may be few monks because you have to learn to take verbal abuse from bad players more then any other class that I've seen.

Anet has NOTHING against farming as long as there method doesn't throw thing out of wack -proportion, and when they do, they will tweak / nerf, etc.

From Anet - http://www.guildwars.com/press/inter...e-friday61.php

Quote:

Because Guild Wars does make extensive use of a player-driven economy, we at ArenaNet have a responsibility to manage the economy, and we take that responsibility seriously. You might ask: what exactly is our responsibility? Is it to keep prices within a certain range? Is it to maintain price stability? We think that, expressed in its most general terms, our responsibility is to keep the distribution of wealth as fair as possible, so that normal players can afford to bid for items in a player-driven economy. We need to avoid situations where a small subset of players can earn orders of magnitude more gold than the average player, thus driving up prices of rare items to a level where normal players could never hope to afford them.

There are three ways that certain players earn more gold than the average. The first and most obvious way is that, because everyone plays the game differently, some players are able to find unusually profitable areas to hunt in, or tricky strategies for killing a lot of monsters quickly. The search for the most effective way to play can be a fun part of the game for everyone -- we all like to see how well our characters can do, and whether we can tweak our characters to be better than they were previously -- and so we at ArenaNet don’t consider this a problem unless it’s extreme. Although a very knowledgeable or tricky player may be able to earn gold twice as fast as the average, this tends not to create a significant problem, because prices for items in the player-driven economy will still stay at levels where normal players can afford them. But sometimes differences in the distribution of wealth can be extreme; a group of players can find ways to earn gold ten times as fast as the average player. In this case, prices can rise to a level where normal players can’t afford to trade for items anymore. Then we have a problem, and we need to adjust the game to bring wealth distribution back into normal ranges. We constantly monitor the game, so we know when a certain place or technique is being heavily exploited. When an issue like this becomes too severe, we make tweaks as necessary to bring things back in line.

There posts now on how you use a SS necro and Fire Ele/Mo to farm UW that works just as well as the 55hp. War/Monks have been able to farm as well. They have stated that "soloing" higest levels of the game was not intended and they will adjust. I don't complain when they tweak to make things harder.

I admit I started farming and in process of getting the 55hp monk build.

Reason, I've played in 3 BWE events, and since the game lunched, I've beat the game twice with my two permanent characters. I share my account with my wife, she has two slots. I find "limited" farming (I don't do UW) very fun and rewarding. I do not bring my farm / smite build (and I have my "normal" armor) with pve parties, I'm full heal / protect. I'm not interested atm in other jobs and some of the missions I dread going through the game again. I'm not making money hand over fist but the sheer unlocks and skill points I'm earning is more then worth it.

Linsys · Feb 23, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54

No will probably read this since its on page 5 lool!!

Anyway, I think there are just not many monks in generall this has NOTHING to do with the 55 build..

When I first started this game I began as a Warrior because franky I didn't just want to heal people I thouhgt healing people was boring and dumb, and well even more boring.. so I said let other people be a monk..

Then I found out most people thing this, which is why not a lot of people pick monk as their first character (there are exception, but I think this is how a lot of people first preceive the monk).

So I created a monk so I could get into missions quicker etc... However even then I REFUSED to be a heal monk... I wouldn't heal period... so I played SMITE MONK (before AoE nerf).. not 55 smite monk... just a regular old smite monk, smiting off warriors using Balth Aura, SoJ, Zealots etc..

Still not a lot of people know what the hell a smite monk was or that I could out dmg an ele any day of the week... but hey I got through all the missions..

I think the fact is healing people sux... I have 2 sets of armor one for my 55 build and one for my heal build... however I WILL ONLY play healer for my guild... I have already completed all the missions so now all thats left for my monk to do is farm, and run FoW and UW... I play Heal in FoW, and I run 55 in UW (clear UW build)..

Again I think the problem is a lot of people think healing is boring.. people want to do dmg and attack stuff...

(please the 10 of you who play this game who really like to heal people don't need to put.... "I don't know what your talking about I love to heal people").

Tyrent Frath · Feb 24, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

@ Linsys

i *think* there may be more than 10 people in the GW world who like to heal...

anyway, although i agree with the general meaning of your speech (55 monks are NOT evil) you bring up many flawed points, and most of them are completely opinions.

btw, do you have any proof on the smite monk>air spiker DOT?

Katari · Feb 24, 2006, 12:39 AM // 00:39

The problem with the 55-monk is for the most part, limited to to griefing. When they claim they're something that they are not, and join partys they are a problem, but not when they are farming. Where do these monks farm? Griffions, UW, maybe trolls and hydras? Warriors can farm the very same places nearly as fast, with the exception of the UW. And I think a three or four man team could farm the UW without a 55-monk.

If you think 55-monks farming is the problem, then you're missing the bigger picture.

xxSilhouette · Feb 24, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

To be honest your not going to see a these people who are making monks for the purpose of 55 only in any mission past the desert ones. And those are the ones that in my opinion a henchie monk cannot be used.

There is nothing wrong with people trying to make money either. You gotta do it someway and this build kicks butt. Its fast and easy and you make quite a bit. I do think theres a crap load of people doing this but so what??? Is it really hurting you that someone found an awesome build and that many are using it?

Tsunami Rain · Feb 24, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

uh lets see...ok, where to begin....Ah yes. I am a 55 monk user. My monk is currently ascended and level 20. I like to farm. <3 farming. I farm in the Under World. I would also like to go on to say that i indeed have two sets of armor (with multiple scalp designs). One of them is a 55 monk set while the other is for healing builds and those that require me to have more than 55 hp.
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I would like to take the time now to say that once you are a 55 monk you can always revert back to a normal monk (which i find very useful).
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This not only allows me to solo FARM but to also RUN, HEAL, and HELP PEOPLE OUT ON MISSIONS.
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Currently my monk can use MANY BUILDS. 55 farming, boon healer, bonder, runner, and many more!
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In conclusion i would just like to say this: Stop Being So Steriotypical.

Tyrent Frath · Feb 24, 2006, 01:59 AM // 01:59

ty tsunami

i also have different sets of armor, a prot, a healing, and a 55.

Wow I Can Use Magic · Feb 24, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04

My 55 monk allows me to run practically any monk build I want for PvP/GvG because of all the skill points I got with him. Power to the 55 monks, don't hate.

Murder In China · Feb 24, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Is it so bad to make money by soloing?

Katari · Feb 24, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wow I Can Use Magic

My 55 monk allows me to run practically any monk build I want for PvP/GvG because of all the skill points I got with him. Power to the 55 monks, don't hate.

Errrrr, what? Having the gear to be a 55-monk dosn't make you a 55-monk, using it does. Kinda like how my warrior isn't a sword warrior when she's using axes, even though I didn't sell my swords. I'm going under the assumption that you're not actualy using a 55-monk in GvG.... that would be foolish...

The problem that was being adressed by the OP was griefers, people who join parties, typicaly UW parties under the guise of a heal monk, then go off on thier own to farm.

55-monks are not the cause of farming. They are not the only build that can farm. 55-monks are not a problem because they can farm. So what if they are the best tanks in the UW? Did you plan to get the ecto needed for FoW armor from drops in 8-player balanced groups? By buying it from the cash made selling drops found in missions? A.net added a single item set that you need to grind for, an item set that offers no statistical advantage, because they know some people will grind for looks and status.

Outside of the UW, 55-monks are nothing overly special. I don't know of any popular large-scale farming spots besides the UW that you need a 55-monk for. Sure, there are special cases, like Titans, but who cares? The reason 55-monks even recived mention is because thier niche requires a 1k entry fee. If it wasn't for that, I doubt monks would bother to grief.

Savio · Feb 24, 2006, 05:42 AM // 05:42

Closed because too many people like to reply to posts that are months old.